02-15-10, Lila Ramirez and Carole Weling respond to Hal Weber’s “Enough is enough!” e-mail
----- Original
Message -----
From: Carole
Weling
To: Lila Ramirez
Cc: ANajarian@ci.glendale.ca.us;
Al Hofmann;
DWeaver@ci.glendale.ca.us;
JDrayman@ci.glendale.ca.us;
lfriedman@ci.glendale.ca.us;
FQuintero@ci.glenale.ca.us;
halweber@earthlink.net;
Herbert
Molano; gnp@latimes.ca.us;
JStarbird@ci.glendale.ca.us;
Varpetian, Lucy; RGetts7740@aol.com;
lenoresolis@gmail.com
Sent:
2/15/2010 1:06:57 PM
Subject: RE:
Enough is Enough
Lila --- I think it is clear that the
VANGUARD/VANGUARDIANS ARE SEXIST AND A GROUP OF HATERS. IT IS
EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THAT NO ONE ON THE---- BOARD OF DIRECTORS OR BOARD OF
ADVISORS---- WITH THE VANGUARD HAS DISAVOWED THE PORNOGRAPHIC HATE MAIL
GENERATED BY THEIR DIRECTOR, CHRISTIAN ARBID.
TRANSPARENCY IS FOR OTHERS----- ACCORDING TO
VANGUARD----- NOT THOSE THAT SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE HATE AND
PORNOGRAPHY. VANGUARD WANTS TO ---PICK, PICK, PICK, PICK--- AT OTHERS----
ESPECIALLY CITY GOVERNMENT. VANGUARD CONTINUALLY
FISHS FOR THEIR PERCEIVED “WRONGS OR INJUSTICE OR JUST PLAIN OLD DIRT”
UNDER THE GUISE OF DOING PUBLIC GOOD. HATERS
THINK TRANSPARENCY IS AN UGLY WORD. HATERS
LOVE THEIR ANONYMITY.
IN
STOP THE
HATE. CAROLE WELING
From: Lila
Ramirez [mailto:rlram@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010
12:13 PM
To: halweber@earthlink.net
Cc: Jim/Carole Weling; Chief DePompa GPD; Robin Toma; richard
ramirez; Mirna Stanley;
Kirk Palmer; Jim Starbird
Subject: Re: Enough is enoigh!
Hal, I have to wonder who sent you the email?
"Enough", is certainly "your call". I would want you
to understand that this minimized attack - "whole mess" is a great
deal more. Greater than an "affair" or
a mere "issue". There's a reason why it's in the
hands of GPD.
When I open an email: RESPONSE to Carole, and I know who it's from I
hardly expect to read hate-filled porn. Christain
Arbid has no right to intrude in my space with his
porn. I understand City Officials received it as well - that's taxpayer
space he used to further his hateful campaign against Carole. He distributed
hate and porn with a purpose, a hateful and clear intent to offend and do
harm. His broke the law - that's a hate
crime.
That it was written as a "RESPONSE" to Barry's email is especially
disturbing to me. I forwarded it to Barry. Silence! How do
you and others manage to dismiss and actually discount the porn, this willful
hate attack on Carole by someone you know? That's what I want to know.
That's what the community needs to know. This City's Hate Response
Policy states: "a hate attack on one, is a
hate attack on all". I take this City Policy very seriously.
From: "halweber@earthlink.net"
<halweber@earthlink.net>
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010
8:34:52 AM
Subject: Enough is enoigh!
One of the e-mails I received regarding my
"New Content" messages about the Carole Weling/Christian
Arbid affair stated, ".... enough is enough
of this whole mess". I agree.
From now on I will no longer send New Content
messages regarding this issue.
Those of you who want to comment on and/or read
about matters involving Vanguardians and
the Carole Weling/Christian Arbid
affair can do so by going to my website's Home Page (www.oggc.org) and scanning down to
the "Opinions About Vanguardians"
link. I will continue to post new information there, but will NOT
send announcements to clutter up the in boxes of those who are tired of hearing
about it.
Hal Weber